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Death of the Web

Strange happenings: I get an email from somebody whose desktop has "gone all black" and who's PC has a process called "vwicn005.gif" running that they can't stop. Having done a Google for vwicn005.gif it appears I am their only hope. Even stranger yet, they don't have the Notes client installed and never have done...

Remember me joking about my dad building his own unofficial Jubilee Beacon? Well, apparently, they've now been awarded official status as one of the global ring. Nice.

Anthony Barker has written some articles about Linux and Domino. There's also a funny one about the Death of the Web. It ends with an analogy that I quite like.

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    • l33t_hax0r
    • Mon 19 Aug 2002 11:42

    Ok, that "death of the web" thing fails to address the problem. The W3C makes standards for developers to follow to increase interoperability, yes. That's the whole point. HTML 4.1 and XML are the 2 standards that web deveopers like myself need to follow to ensure the product will function.

    Why do I think this article is misguided? Because Netscape supports neither! For example, the HTML attribute is a standard just like all the others, but Nescape doesn't support it! XML is changing the way the internet works, and it's a standard too; How well does Netscape support that?

    Microsoft.Net bashing is fine for Linux/Netscape affectionados, but try to remember that the reason it's doing so well is because it follows the standards set by the W3C, not beacuse it monopolizes the internet.

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    • Tone
    • Mon 19 Aug 2002 13:05

    l33t_hax0r

    I'm kind of torn on this one. I've given up HTML4.1 in favour of XHTML. I prefer Strict XHTML where possible. I'm not a Netscape or Linux fan, as I use IE5.5 on Windows 9*/NT/2000/XP. And I've never even SEEN Linux. But I get the guy's point. My personal stance is that if something's well developed enough using XHTML CSS DOM and SVG, it should be compatible with my fridge. But I live in a dream world.

    I did enjoy the article though.

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    • Jake
    • Mon 19 Aug 2002 13:10

    No offence meant "l33T" but I think it's you that missed the point..

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    • l33t_hax0r
    • Mon 19 Aug 2002 13:40

    Well, if the point is that adding proprietary client server components to established standards reduces interoperabilty, then I guess I see what you mean. However, it's for necessary software companies to

    1: Make money; and

    2: Remain innovative, as technologies can launch before modified standards are accepted.

    Although I did enjoy the article, and I guess I can appreciate what he means, I still think that the source of the compatibilty problems lie elsewere.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to jump to M$'s defence too quickly, It just seems like the article was too hard on M$ for being innovative and too easy on Netscape despite it not following established W3C standards.

  1. My two pence (so Jake will not complain) ;-P

    1.- Microsoft mistake is providing more than W3C stablish (I love some features but they works only in IE)

    2.- NN 4.x, Doesn't implement W3C recommendations as they stablish.

    But what is the real world?

    DOM.

    So if now we have Mozilla/Netscape>6.x, IE6,Opera 6, then .... Come on!

    .::AleX::.

    Dominocode.Net

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    • Gaston
    • Tue 20 Aug 2002 02:22

    Hi Jake,

    I like the analogy but I can't see the problem in developping a non-standard application that 98% of the internet users will be able to see...

    following the standard will cost you much more that the 2% remaining will give you back...

    Always the same thing, you spend 20% of your time building 80% of the feature, and 80% of your time trying to finish the 20% remaining...

    Gaston.

    PS: this text area is way too small !

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    • Jake
    • Tue 20 Aug 2002 03:26

    The textarea isn't too small. It's your post that's too big.

    Keep them small please folks. This isn't a discussion forum.

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    • Tony
    • Tue 20 Aug 2002 09:55

    That's us told. I like the ability to comment on blogs, but it's difficult to resist the tempation to 'discuss' though, as if in a 'forum'. :(

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    • The J
    • Tue 20 Aug 2002 11:40

    Jake - limit our characters!!!

    pleeeease, other wise I feel the need to fill this box, and when I press my return key a new line appears, so I must fill that! - now i'm stuck in a vicious circle... help me ... i'm stuck!

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    • Tone
    • Wed 21 Aug 2002 05:15

    I agree. I can't regulate myself. And neither can anyone else by the looks of things. If only Notes.net was a more friendly place, perhaps people like us would bother codestore so much!

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