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Bringing Domino Down

On Saturday when I talked about PHP's string parsing features it was a dumbed-down version that I posted. The original had a paragraph that was basically a challenge to do the same thing with Domino. When I went over what I had written I remembered a conversation I had with Mike, last time I met up with him. At the time I was feeling guilty about my ratio of PHP:Domino chat. Mike told me not to feel bad about the PHP side of things but he did say that, when I do talk about PHP, it shouldn't be from the perspective that it's so much better than Domino. Instead I should talk about them separately and, when together, I should refrain from bringing Domino down too much. This is what I will try my hardest to do from now on. I have enough enemies in the Domino world as is.

For a while I thought about keeping this site strictly Domino but then started thinking that that could well be the means to an end. It might not keep all of you happy all of the time if I talk about one thing more than another but the important thing is that I am happy. At the moment I am happier talking about and playing with PHP. Whenever I have some Domino stuff to pass on, I will do. On Thursday Erwin promises us a guest-blog covering news from this week's Amsterdam View Conference. He's passing me some interesting facts live from the seminars as we speak. You've got to love Instant Messaging.

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  1. I think its natural that Codestore should evolve over time, just as your interests and web development tools & techniques change over time. Perhaps its time to stop beating yourself up for not being entirely Domino-centric and 'officially' recognize that you and your site have much more to offer to the community. Although I first started visiting Codestore years ago because I was looking for insights into Notes/Domino development, my interests have expanded too (PHP/MySQL being one of them).

    Mike has some valid points about comparing Domino to PHP. My perspective is that Domino is generally great for doing what it was intended to do -- pushing Notes content and collaborative, workflow-related apps, to the web. And if you are in a corporation like mine that already has the Notes/Domino infrastructure and need to build a web presence it makes sense to leverage Domino. Its probably not valid to compare it to PHP/MySQL on all points because in many respects it is like comparing apples to oranges.

    So keep up the work on topics not directly related to Domino (especially PHP/MySQL). Last I checked this site is called Codestore, not Domino Codestore! :^)

  2. Hey man, it's your site... and you're not making people subscribe to it... so write about what you think is worth writing about.

    I'm a firm believer in using the right tool for a job - sure you can use a wrench to drive in a nail, but I'd rather use a hammer. If PHP's the given hammer for a certain nail that I come across, you'd better bet your fish&chips that I'm gonna use it.

    Lastly, don't refrain from knocking any technology as much as advising on why your given hammer is better at nail-driving than the old wrench. That way, no one can blame you of saying "The wrench is dead!" ;-)

    -Chris

  3. I suspect that the same conversation, in which I said a basic "how-to install and get it all working with Domino" article was needed, (which *I* eventually published), also spurred on the series of articles you are now writing. Good, because ultimately, my article, was spurred on by you dabbling with PHP in the first place.

    I said all along, you should talk about PHP and ignore the mud slingers, I'm glad you have eventually done so, even if it took some time and persuasion.

    My perspective is, Domino is an excellent product and I'm sure it is better than PHP at a few things, but PHP has a huge installed user and developer base, it's easy to use, easy to install, very powerful and FREE, it's an excellent web development platform and I'm a web developer, so I'm interested in it. And on that basis I assume others will be as well.

    Mike

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    • Scott
    • Mon 13 Oct 2003 12:39

    Jake,

    Your site is called CODEstore, not DOMINOstore. Very interested in <any> code. It's always good to learn new technologies using the Domino perspective.

    Scott

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    • Jim Lockwood
    • Mon 13 Oct 2003 15:54

    The free food and wine was better in Paris than Amsterdam. I'll report back on the free food in Florida in January. Stay tuned, folks.

  4. Jake why give a monkees? Do people really give you grief over 'their' expectancy for 'you' to constantly provide what 'they' want? I thought blogging was about 'your' freedom of expression and 'your' interests? If this is the case then charge a subscription as that makes you a technical magazine!

  5. Do what 'you' want and don't care about other's opinions!You is yourself,not others.

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    • Nidge
    • Tue 14 Oct 2003 04:51

    You determine the direction. It's your site, not ours.

    P.S. If I'm wrong, hand over the user id's and passwords!

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    • HUK
    • Tue 14 Oct 2003 08:27

    Jake,

    From what I have seen the vast majority of folks posting on your site are very supportive of your php talk. I count myself as one of them

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